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I went down to a plastic ruler completely negative, but I talked at work with those

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men for quite a while.

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I listened to tapes that had been taken when they didn't know they were being taped.

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I saw how Charlie behaved under hypnosis and finally the Delighted actor test.

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All of those things convinced me that he was not making it up.

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They had had an experience, period.

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But you can't determine whether they actually saw a flying saucer or were taking a board one.

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No, I couldn't at all.

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There's no way that I know of in which we could determine that.

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It's like if you tell me that you've been up to purple peach trees last night, what can I do about it?

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Boy, you have to go on the assumption that he is indeed telling the truth.

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Well, yeah.

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You have to then judge by his past reputation, what his how he's regarded in the community.

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Would he have any reason to do it?

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All that sort of thing.

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So I just don't know about that.

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Of course, it's a pattern.

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You see, that's not a nice thing to case.

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We have a catalog now of well over 800 such cases.

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On October 23rd of this year, Charles Hixon, one of the men involved in that incident at Pascagoula,

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invited WDDC Newsman Rudolph Brewington to his home in Goshay, Mississippi.

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That's just north of Pascagoula.

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And Hixon recalled his experience.

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Last year on October the 16th in the fall of the year, Calvin Parker and myself,

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at that time we were employed by FB Walk and Son shipyard in Pascagoula.

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And sometime during the day on October 11th, we decided to go fishing after work,

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something that I do quite often when I'm not working as fishing.

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So after we got off work, probably 4.30, I think, we were working nine hours a day.

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I came home and I had to get my own fishing gear.

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And we wouldn't go out in a boat because we were going to the banks of the river

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and fishing from the banks for a speckle trout and redfish.

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So we tried, we got up eight and we got to the river and tried several spots

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and the fish didn't seem to be biting.

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So there was one more spot that we were going to try.

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In the past, I'd caught fish there a lot of times.

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It's the old Shopee to Shipyard. It's an old banded shipyard.

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So we went back up the river to the old Shipyard and we were fishing from a pier

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off of the walk you might see on the banks of the river there.

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And it had become dark by that time.

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We do quite a bit of fishing after it got down here in that time of the year.

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So I don't know what attracted my attention,

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but I had reached around and get more bait, which was sitting behind us.

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I heard some kind of zipping like sound like a steam or something.

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They gave it from a pipe.

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And as I turned around, I saw some two blue flashing lights or either pulsating lights.

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I'm not sure.

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And it seemed like it was some type of craft and it seemed like it was almost down to the ground then.

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In fact, it seemed to be about a couple of feet above the ground.

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It was just hovered there.

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So Kevin had turned by this time and he was looking at it too.

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And I really didn't know what to do.

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I just spelled it out for a few minutes.

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And then almost immediately, some type of opening appeared and at the end it was torus,

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what I soon would be the front end.

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And the light that had come outside, which was real bright light.

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And three things appeared in the doorway of the craft and they seemed to just glide out of the craft.

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They never touched the ground.

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They seemed to just glide across, it must have been 25 or 30 feet from us or maybe a little further than that.

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And they came to us, just glided over to us and two of them took me by the arms from the side.

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And one took a hole of Calvin and I seen Calvin go limp.

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I didn't know it then, but he had fainted.

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So they carried me inside the craft and the light was almost blinding inside.

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In fact, for about three or four days I had something like a bed well-inflaged in my eyes.

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And I can't recall or I can't remember just what was on the inside simply because the light was so bright

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that I just couldn't make out what it was.

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But I didn't see any tables or chairs and the room seemed to be round.

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Of course that could have been because the light seemed to be going from the walls and the overhead and the ceiling.

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But they carried me, I guess, about the middle of the room and we just seemed to be suspended there.

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I couldn't move, I didn't have any feelings, no sensation of any field.

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And it seemed to be something like a big eye.

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I keep referring to it as an eye because it was about size for small baseball.

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In the end it was focused on me, it was a different color or different light.

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And it seemed to come directly out from the wall and it came within six or eight inches of my face.

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And it remained there for a few minutes and then it, very few minutes and then it went over my entire body.

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I'm assuming it did because when it went down like this I seemed to be suspended there.

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And the next time I seen it, it was coming back up over this way.

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So I assumed that it went over my entire body.

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But it came back in front of my face and stayed there for a few more minutes and then it seemed to just go right back into the wall.

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And these things, the way they were holding me, I was elevated because they weren't as tall as me and they were upright and I was elevated like this.

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And I could see, I could move my eyes, only thing that could move.

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And I could see that they had released me and I don't know where they went, whether they went outside the craft or another room or compartment,

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but they didn't come in front of me and they left me that way for a few minutes.

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I don't know how long.

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And then after a while, I seen them then when they come back to the side of me and took hold of me again.

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And they carried me back outside the craft and we were still just gliding.

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I wouldn't touch anything that I know of and they seemed to just glide back out the wall they had taken me from and put me back down on the ground.

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But when they did, I fell because my legs were weak and they gave way on me.

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And it was this time and I seen Calvin again.

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He was standing there, he was standing facing the river with his arms outstretched and he was almost in shock.

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He seemed to appear to me at that time, he was, something was wrong with him.

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So I was trying to get to make my way toward him and I was crawling.

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I couldn't get my legs to work him.

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But before I got to him, the strength of what it was came back to my legs and I was getting up on my feet.

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And I heard the same sound I'd heard before a zipping sound.

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And I graced around and I saw the blue flashing lights and it was the craft was just gold.

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It just almost instantly.

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And I got to, I made it to Calvin and I shook him and was calling to him and it took me several minutes to get him where I could even talk to him, you know, with any sense.

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And he was going in shock.

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And these things that came out of the craft, they were about five or five foot four inches tall.

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And they didn't have a neck, they had seemed to come directed to the shoulders and they had something that resembled a nose on a face.

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And about what ears would be, something that was similar to the nose on it was a little longer.

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They seemed to come out almost to a point.

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And under the nose, it was something like a slit for a mouth and it was very wrinkled.

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And it seemed, it appeared to me to be something like an elephant skin, but I don't know who it was, a metal or what it was, but it seemed to be very wrinkles with the wrinkles running horizontal.

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And in the area where the eyes should have been, it was so wrinkled that I'm not even sure there was eyes.

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I don't know, I can't recall whether there was any eyes not in Calvin says he came.

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But anyway, after I got Calvin, I could talk to him.

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We didn't know what to do and we were almost scared to death.

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And we first decided we wouldn't tell anyone, but the more we talked about it, the more we realized that we had to tell somebody, the military authorities, if nobody else.

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So we called Keesler Air Force Base, which is only about, it blocks you about 30 miles south of here.

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And I talked to someone there and they told me that the Air Force didn't handle those things anymore, that we would have to go through our Sheriff's Department.

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Well, then we hesitated again because, you know, you go to the, people just, something like that is not supposed to happen and when you would probably be laughed at and ridiculed.

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But we talked it over again and decided we would call the Sheriff's Department and the Sheriff Fred Diamond told us to come on over there and we'd talk about it.

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So we stayed there for several hours talking with them, them questioners.

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And the Sheriff promised me that it wouldn't, it wouldn't even use me and know anything about it that he would try to get it to the proper authorities if he could find out who the proper authorities was and have it investigated.

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So we went home that morning and it was morning because they had kept us there quite late and with assures that it wouldn't be any publicity about it at all.

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Well, we went on to work that morning and by 7 or 8 o'clock they was telephone ringing, you know, all over the shipyard.

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And I called Fred Diamond and he said that he don't know how the story leaked out from the Sheriff's Department but, you know, by that time the whole world knew about it.

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You said something that was like an eye, ran up and down your body. Do you think it was like examining you?

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Yes, it was something, it had to be some type of examination. Well, I say had to be, it appears to me that it would be.

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And after talking with a lot of scientists and I'm convinced that it was something, it was some type of examination that it didn't.

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Did you communicate with these creatures, these things?

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No, in the only sound that they made, they didn't attempt to communicate with me.

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The only sound that they made, one of them, and I'm not even sure it come from one of the things, but it was some kind of mumlin like sound, a little mumlin sound from one of them.

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But other than that, they didn't try to communicate. I tried to say something to them aboard the craft, but I think now, and I have a reasons to believe, many of them reason to believe, these things were robots.

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They weren't beings. They were being controlled by beings from somewhere else.

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What made you think that, sir?

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Well, for some reason, just to mention several reasons, I didn't see any movement of breath in the chest area. I didn't see any movement of breath in the slit of the mouth here. It didn't move.

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And when they moved, they seemed to move as something mechanically. They could move their arms like this, and in their shoulders, but their head didn't move.

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And when they moved, they seemed to turn as if mechanically. It appeared to me that they had something that they were programmed, you might say, to do something.

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They had something specific to do, and they just simply done it, and their attention wasn't distracted one way or the other.

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Did their examination of you hurt you?

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No, no. The only physical pain that I had is when they took hold of me there on the banks of the river. The one that took hold of my left arm, and this arm here, just instantly, I felt pain, but it was gone just that quick.

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And then once the board of craft, at one time, I felt the same pain in the same area again, but it was just instantly. And that's the only physical pain that I had through the entire thing.

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Now, approximately, how long do you figure you were in the craft itself?

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Well, I'm not sure, because I don't wear a watch. A watch won't keep time on me. And Calvin didn't have a watch.

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And we've tried to go back and, or I've tried to go back and try to figure the time out from the time that we left the area going to call it, Keisley Air Force Base and all.

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And it could have possibly been as long as, well, it could have been anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour, and probably even longer than that.

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Can you give our listeners some idea of the size of this craft that you were suspended with that?

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Well, the craft, let me explain now. The angle that I was looking toward the craft, it's hard for me to say, which I can't say, whether the craft was round like a disk, or whether it was long or oblong like a cigar.

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Because it was, let me give you an example. Like the craft was sitting here. We're assuming that this is the front end of it. That was the end. It was torus.

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Well, I'm looking at it from this angle. So all I can see is what is this side of what I'm assuming to be the front. And maybe it's a little bit of the mat.

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So I can't be sure whether the craft was round like a disk or was long or oblong. But it appeared to me that it was about 30 or 40 foot long and maybe eight or 10 foot high.

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Well, it hadn't affected me, I don't think. It has affected my life because I don't, and now I don't have time for a recreation that I did have before with my wife and my children.

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And there's always, there's so many interviews, and there's so many places that I go in the country which I'd rather be home with my family.

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And surely after a few months I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, I was home all the time. But the fear is all gone now. It's just not as much fear as it was before.

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Have you had any recurring nightmares about this?

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Surely after I did, yes. But that's all gone. And then I might add that we asked the sheriff that night because after we decided to tell the sheriff, certainly we wanted to prove to him that it did happen.

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So we asked for a lie detector test. They didn't have the facilities here in Jackson County. So later on in the, I think it was either the latter part of October or the early part of November, Calvin had had a nervous breakdown because, I think because of this.

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He was in a hospital in Jones County. I took a polygapt test here in Pascagoula, which proved that I was telling the truth.

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You said your friend Calvin is at a nervous breakdown.

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Yes, he had a nervous breakdown and he remained a while in the hospital, but he's okay now.

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You don't seem to be too affected by it, outwardly.

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Well, the only way that I can explain that, Calvin is quite a bit younger than me and Calvin had never known much fear. But I've known fear a lot of times, nothing like that.

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But I was in combat in career. In fact, I was in career about 20 months and 16 days in the Korean War. And I've known fear many times before. And unless that was the reason that caused me to hold up better than Calvin, I don't know.

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Speaking of fear, were you afraid doing this attack?

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I certainly was. And I can explain that. What I consider normal fear to be is something that you expect. You know, this normal fear is something that you expect, you're only sure.

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But this was something that wasn't supposed to even exist. And it's fear that you can't even explain.

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Because I kept thinking, you know, what are they going to do? Are they going to take us away? Or are they going to kill us? Are they going to take us away?

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And well, in fact, when they carried me aboard that craft, I figured that I'd never put my foot on Earth again.

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But you'd never see a family.

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I'd never see my family anymore.

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What is your feeling on your foot? Do you think that there's life beyond this earth?

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Well, let me explain. Before this happened to me, I can't say that I believe or disbelieve.

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Because I simply didn't think about it one way or the other. I guess I'm like most people I had in my own little world that I lived in.

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And I didn't consider life on other worlds. I didn't think about it.

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But now there's no doubt in my mind, I positively know that there's at least one world up there somewhere with some type of life.

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I meant to be a fact.

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An intelligent but peaceful life.

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That's right. I think they're peaceful because, you know, they didn't try to harm Calvin and me physically.

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In fact, they seem to be very easy with us. What they want, I don't know.

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But I certainly don't think that they're hostile at all.

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Would you advocate our government trying to communicate or contact these individuals, these beings, to help us on our planet?

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Well, certainly. Since this has happened to me, I've done all the research and all the reading on these things that I can.

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I've taught with many scientists and doctors and people that is concerned.

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I think the government should have been doing it a long time ago.

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Because this wasteful is our government is and they're spending the money that they've simply thrown away.

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Some of that money could have been used to try to maybe contact intelligent life on other worlds and probably it could have already been done.

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One of the arguments that the government always gives is that if they reveal the presence of UFOs, it would cause widespread panic and fear.

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I love the world, the world's broadcasts of the world as many years ago. Do you agree with that?

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Well, to a certain extent. I agree that maybe years ago, yes.

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But I think that the facts is out now and honestly believe this. I don't think that the Air Force has abandoned their UFO studies.

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I think that they have definite proof that other worlds and beings do exist.

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I think before this year's out, and I say this for some reservation,

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but I think before the year's out that our government is going to, or particularly our Air Force,

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is going to come out to the American people and tell them these things do exist.

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But I think they're going to do it in a way where they won't cause a match this year like you just mentioned.

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And I think that they will be done before the year's out.